#35 – Herb Dean, Kurt Osiander

Tim, Matt, and Francisco sit down to talk with top MMA referee Herb Dean to talk about the tough job of refereeing MMA matches, the S7 Submission Grappling tournament, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu tournaments. Kurt Osiander takes BJJ advice questions and gives great advice on how to treat new tough guy students.

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