Jiu-Jitsu and Judo with Master Milton Maximiano Trombini

Special thanks to Cia Paulista Sacramento, André Glodzinski, and Scatha G. Allison for translating and assisting in putting this interview and photos together.

Cia Paulista’s first United States Belt Graduation Ceremony was held in
Pasedena. California, on November 6, 2010.


Inside BJJ
Could you talk about the integration of Judo into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu specifically for the standup techniques?

Master Milton Maximiano Trombini
In the first place, it’s very important to understand the history of the arts to be able to analyze this matter. I have two conclusions. One, from the historical, the other from the technical.

We’re going to start historically. The beginning of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu came from the source of a Judo fighter named Count Maeda [also known as Conde Kona], who arrived in Brazil in 1915 and taught the Gracie family the Jiu-Jitsu Kanos. The same style that, in 1925, was established by the Japanese government as the Judo Kodokan in all Japanese schools. So we can observe that there has been a transition where Jiu-Jitsu started to get the name of Judo, and the focus of the rules moved to the stand up fight. The genius idea of the Gracie family was to rescue the ground fight that had been blocked by the modeling of the Olympic Judo rules created by Kano – creating the Jiu-Jitsu competition system where the greater the risk of submissions, the greater number of points. So we can get to the conclusion that the technique is the same, but the rules make the Judo stronger in the standup part and the Jiu-Jitsu grew in a monstrous way on the ground.

Now, talking about the technical part, we have to utilize the strengths of both the  ground and standup in a strategic way. We have to utilize the Jiu-Jitsu for the Judo and vice versa. Historically, coming from the same root we need to have the rules clearly in our minds and take advantage of the favorable moment to utilize them. So saying that, I believe that we are fruits from the same tree. It would be a mistake to separate them.

Inside BJJ
Who does a good job of it right now on the competition scene?

Master Milton Maximiano Trombini
As a competitor, I very much like the heart of Roger Gracie. Even while not fully dominating with excellence the standup fight, he challenges himself by facing great fighters who specialize in  Nage-Waza (the stand-up techniques). Another fighter that I consider “complete” is Claudio Calasans because he uses the two strengths strategically.

Inside BJJ
Since your so close to Olympic Judo, I’d like to ask your opinion on Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu as an Olympic game?

Master Milton Maximiano Trombini
From my perspective, there are still some steps to be taken to one day achieve the Olympic dream. One of them is to see the Jiu-Jitsu like a form, in a more educational and philosophical way. Also there has to be a certain amount of countries that practice it with strength to fight equally because still today all the world championships are controlled by Brazilian competitors, which is awesome for Brazil as a tradition, but it is not good for an Olympic dream. Another point is the political divisions, in that Jiu-Jitsu being more viewed as a business and not as a sport.

Inside BJJ
Has it hurt the art of Judo to have it in the Olympics in terms of modifications to the rules? Would it hurt Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu as well?

Master Milton Maximiano Trombini
Just like anything else, it’s in transformation. All change has a good side and a bad side. Some will think that it’s wonderful. Others will think it’s horrible. The fact doesn’t matter. And yes, the perception of the fact is what matters. My perception to this is that when you focus too much in Olympic medals and competition, in the end you lose important parts of the Jiu-Jitsu, including the self-defense. So the Jiu-Jitsu, as a whole thing in the end, is lost. So, Judo is not a full martial art because of the Olympic mode. But they have the support of the Katas, and this could happen to Jiu-Jitsu too. I will go further, it’s already happening on the competitive scene now. So I will say again, some will like it, some will not.

Inside BJJ
What do you see for the future of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Judo?

Master Milton Maximiano Trombini
I see two distinct models of rules but they are united by the same principles and sources (Judo and Jiu-Jitsu).  Together they will provide people a lifestyle that is based on principles and quality of life.

My final tip – all the Judo instructors should open their eyes and get rid of their egos and learn Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and that all the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu instructors dive deep into Judo to be able to show and teach the standup part of the Jiu-Jitsu (Judo) with more consistency and content.

All human beings is a being in transformation.

  • BJJ Coach to many World champions, PanAm, Brazilian and EuropeanNational champions.
  • Newaza (Judo Ground game) National coach for the Brazilian Olympic team
  • 3 time gold medal champion in Judo
  • Jiu-jitsu medals as a National Champion, South American Champion and more…
  • Coached to Russian, French, Japanese and Slovenia Judo Olympic teams.
  • Author of,”The Apprentice of the Samurai”

One Response to “Jiu-Jitsu and Judo with Master Milton Maximiano Trombini”

  1. Oleksandr Havrylyuk says:

    Hello. I write you from Ukraine. I want to ask you about teaching. Is it possible to become a judo instructor in your club and what kind of document will I need if answer is positive. Short about me: I am 29 years old. I have been training from 1998. In September 2010 I became a judo instructor in my country (Chernivtsi city). My coach is Germanyuk Ulian Stepanovich (Германюк Юлиан Степанович) Head of the Judicial Commission of Judo Federation of Ukraine, International judge, Master of Sports in Sambo and Judo, honored coach of Ukraine.


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